Menu op elke pagina

Ronnie1967 · 15 jan 2010

Hallo allemaal, ik heb met sothink dhtml menu een uitklapmenu gemaakt voor mijn te bouwen site. nu wil ik graag dat dit menu op iedere volgende te zien is. en ik wil graag dat indien er een wijziging is ik dat slechts een keer hoef aan te passen. ik ben al een poosje aan het surfen om iets te vinden maar ik kan niets vinden waar ik wat mee kan of wat ik begrijp. ik ben een beginnende hobby bouwer. wie kan me helpen?

ron

Woutertjuh88 · 15 jan 2010

je kan dit het beste doen door 1 pagina te maken met het hele menu en deze dan includesn met php op je website. Dan hoef je maar 1x de pagina van het menu te maken met alle links en het enige wat je dat moet doen is op de plek waar elke keer het menu komt in php neer te zetten:

HTML:

<?php
         include('menu.html');
?>

Ronnie1967 · 15 jan 2010

Hoi bedankt voor je reactie, het klinkt heel simpel maar ik ben een echte digibeet. hoe include ik met php?

gr

ron

Woutertjuh88 · 15 jan 2010

Ik weet niet precies hoe je je pagina hebt opgebouwt maar als ik er vanuit ga dat je met div's werkt zo:

HTML:

<html>
 <head>
  <title>TITEL VAN DE PAGINA</tile>
 </head>
 <body>
 <div id=titelbalk>
  TITELBALK
 </div>
 <div id=menu>
  <?php 
   include('menu.html');
  ?>
 <div>
 <div id=inhoudwebsite>
  INHOUD VAN DE WEBSITE/PAGINA
  <div> 
 <body>
</html>

Je moet elke pagina waar je PHP in gebruikt wel opslaan als .php bestand. Anders zat het niet werken. (dus.htm of .html vervangen door .php)

csshunter · 16 jan 2010

Hoi Ronnie1967,

Aanvulling-1 op Woutertjuh88:
Wat je als menu.html opslaat, is alléén de pure html-code van de menuregels in de broncode van je pagina. Er zitten dus geen <!DOCTYPE ...><html><head>...</head><body>...</body></html> tags in.

Aanvulling-2 op Woutertjuh88:
Het zou kunnen zijn, dat de server van je provider (al dan niet: op dit moment) geen php ondersteunt. Het kan zijn, dat je php via je account-instellingen eerst moet aanzetten. Het kan ook zo zijn (bij een aantal gratis webruimte-verschaffers is dat zo), dat php er gewoon niet op zit.
In het laatste geval kan je hetzelfde bereiken met zogenaamde SSI's (= server side includes). Daarvoor geldt een iets andere aanroep-code, maar het werkt verder hetzelfde; de pagina's moeten dan .shtml heten in plaats van .php.

Gedétailleerder instructies:
Voor als je de grondbeginselen van php niet kent, dan:

staat een voorbeeld van het php-princiep hier,
wat toelichting erbij staat hier,
en een uitgebreide NL tutorial voor een php-site staat hier.

Kan je hiermee even voort?

Succes!
CSShiunter

Ronnie1967 · 16 jan 2010

bedankt voor je hulp maar ik krijg het niet echt voor elkaar.
Ik heb mijn menu opgeslagen als aparte site en dat ziet er als volgt uit.

HTML:

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		<!-- MSCellType="NavBody" -->
		<p><!-- Sothink Widgets Begin, Do not edit it -->
<script id="sothink_widgets:_pgtres-40189,8884722222_PageletServer.DynamicMenu.pgt" type="text/javascript"> 
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		<p>&nbsp;</td>

Ik weet niet hoe en waar ik dit moet neerzetten. Mijn hele index site staat hieronder. de plaatjes zijn slecht maar dat wordt nog anders.

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="nl">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Welkom op onze website</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="expe1011.css">
<script type="text/javascript" id="sothink_dhtmlmenu"> <!--
 st_siteroot="file:///C|/Users/Ron/Desktop/Nieuwe%20website/Menu";
 st_jspath="/stmenu.js";
 if(!window.location.href.indexOf("file:") && st_jspath.charAt(0)=="/")
  document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'+st_siteroot+st_jspath+'"><\/script>');
 else 
  document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'+st_jspath+'"><\/script>');
//--> </script>
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="travel 1011">
</head>

<body>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="1192" height="660">
	<!-- MSTableType="layout" -->
	<tr>
		<td valign="top">
		&nbsp;<script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="http://www.webhelpje.nl/teller/teller.php?name=ronnie1967">
</script></td>
		<td valign="top" colspan="2" height="58">
		<!-- MSCellType="ContentHead" -->
		<p align="center"><font size="7">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Welkom 
		op onze website</font></td>
		</tr>
	<tr>
		<td msopnltype="NavBody" rowspan="2" colspan="2">
		<!-- MSCellType="NavBody" -->
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stm_aix("p3i6","p2i6",[]);
stm_aix("p3i7","p2i7",[]);
stm_aix("p3i8","p2i8",[]);
stm_aix("p3i9","p2i9",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p1i4","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p1i5","p2i0",[0,"Foto\'s","","",-1,-1,0,"#"]);
stm_aix("p1i6","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p1i7","p1i5",[0,"Informatie"]);
stm_aix("p1i8","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p1i9","p1i5",[0,"Reisverslagen"]);
stm_aix("p1i10","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p1i11","p1i1",[0,"Menu Item 1","","",-1,-1,0,""]);
stm_bpx("p4","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p4i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p4i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p4i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i8","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i9","p0i7",[0,"Zwitserland"],180,30);
stm_bpx("p5","p1",[1,2,6,0,0,2,0,16,100,"stEffect(\"slip\")",-2,"",-2,85,0,0,"#7F7F7F","#333333","",3,1,1,"#999999"]);
stm_aix("p5i0","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p5i1","p1i1",[]);
stm_bpx("p6","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p6i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p6i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p6i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p5i2","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p5i3","p1i3",[]);
stm_bpx("p7","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p7i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p7i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p7i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_aix("p7i3","p2i3",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p5i4","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p5i5","p1i5",[]);
stm_aix("p5i6","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p5i7","p1i7",[]);
stm_aix("p5i8","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p5i9","p1i11",[0,"Reisverslagen"]);
stm_bpx("p8","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p8i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p8i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p8i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i10","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i11","p0i7",[0,"Nederland"],180,30);
stm_bpx("p9","p5",[]);
stm_aix("p9i0","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p9i1","p1i1",[]);
stm_bpx("p10","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p10i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p10i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p10i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_aix("p10i3","p2i3",[]);
stm_aix("p10i4","p2i4",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p9i2","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p9i3","p1i3",[]);
stm_bpx("p11","p2",[]);
stm_aix("p11i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p11i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p11i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_aix("p11i3","p2i3",[]);
stm_aix("p11i4","p2i4",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p9i4","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p9i5","p1i5",[0,"Vakantie\'s"]);
stm_aix("p9i6","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p9i7","p1i5",[]);
stm_aix("p9i8","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p9i9","p1i7",[]);
stm_aix("p9i10","p0i6",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i12","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i13","p0i1",[0,"Nieuw op de site"],180,30);
stm_aix("p0i14","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i15","p0i1",[0,"Contact"],180,30);
stm_aix("p0i16","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i17","p0i0",[0,"Diversen"],180,33);
stm_aix("p0i18","p0i1",[0,"Vakantie recepten","","",-1,-1,0,"#","_self","","","arrow011.gif","arrow011.gif",7,7,0,"arrowaaa.gif","arrowaaa.gif",16,9,0,0,1,"#333333"],180,30);
stm_bp("p12",[1,2,6,0,0,2,0,0,100,"stEffect(\"slip\")",-2,"",-2,85,0,0,"#7F7F7F","#333333","",3,1,1,"#999999"]);
stm_aix("p12i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p12i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p12i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_aix("p12i3","p2i3",[]);
stm_aix("p12i4","p2i4",[]);
stm_aix("p12i5","p2i5",[]);
stm_aix("p12i6","p2i6",[]);
stm_aix("p12i7","p2i7",[]);
stm_aix("p12i8","p2i8",[]);
stm_aix("p12i9","p2i9",[]);
stm_aix("p12i10","p2i10",[]);
stm_aix("p12i11","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 12"]);
stm_aix("p12i12","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 13"]);
stm_aix("p12i13","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 14"]);
stm_aix("p12i14","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 15"]);
stm_aix("p12i15","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 16"]);
stm_aix("p12i16","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 17"]);
stm_aix("p12i17","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 18"]);
stm_aix("p12i18","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 19"]);
stm_aix("p12i19","p2i0",[0,"Menu Item 20"]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i19","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i20","p0i18",[0,"Foto van de dag","","",-1,-1,0,"","_self","","","arrow011.gif","arrow011.gif",7,7,0,"","",0,0],180,30);
stm_aix("p0i21","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i22","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i23","p0i20",[0,"Gastenboek","","",-1,-1,0,"#"],180,30);
stm_aix("p0i24","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i25","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i26","p0i18",[0,"Leuke links"],180,30);
stm_bpx("p13","p12",[]);
stm_aix("p13i0","p2i0",[]);
stm_aix("p13i1","p2i1",[]);
stm_aix("p13i2","p2i2",[]);
stm_aix("p13i3","p2i3",[]);
stm_aix("p13i4","p2i4",[]);
stm_aix("p13i5","p2i5",[]);
stm_aix("p13i6","p2i6",[]);
stm_aix("p13i7","p2i7",[]);
stm_aix("p13i8","p2i8",[]);
stm_aix("p13i9","p2i9",[]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i27","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i28","p0i18",[0,"Onze dieren","","",-1,-1,0,""],180,30);
stm_bpx("p14","p5",[1,2,6,0,0,2,0,0]);
stm_aix("p14i0","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i1","p1i5",[0,"Minoes"]);
stm_aix("p14i2","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i3","p1i5",[0,"Biggel"]);
stm_aix("p14i4","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i5","p1i5",[0,"Stitch"]);
stm_aix("p14i6","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i7","p1i5",[0,"Layla"]);
stm_aix("p14i8","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i9","p1i5",[0,"Juultje"]);
stm_aix("p14i10","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p14i11","p2i0",[0,"Sasja"]);
stm_ep();
stm_aix("p0i29","p0i6",[]);
stm_aix("p0i30","p1i1",[0,"","","",-1,-1,0,"","_self","","","","",0,0,0,"","",0,0,0,0,1,"#006666",0,"#006666",0,"","",3,3,0,0,"#FFFFFF","#FFFFFF","#9999FF"],180,33);
stm_ep();
stm_em();
//-->
</script>
<!-- Sothink Widgets End, Do not edit it --></p>
		<p>&nbsp;</td>
		<td valign="bottom" height="548">
		<!-- MSCellType="ContentBody" -->
		<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="Website.jpg" width="875" height="546"></td>
		</tr>
	<tr>
		<td valign="top" height="53">
		<!-- MSCellType="ContentFoot" -->
		<marquee style="font-size: 18pt; color: #FF0000; position: absolute; left: 229; top: 573" scrollamount="4" height="50" width="972" loop="1" behavior="slide" scrolldelay="50">Er staan nieuwe items op de site</marquee></td>
		</tr>
	<tr>
		<td width="180"></td>
		<td width="37"></td>
		<td height="1" width="975"></td>
	</tr>
</table>

</body>

</html>

Ik heb de hele tutorial bekeken maar het is voor mij redelijk abacadabra.
Op dit moment heb ik een hele simpele website en daar heb ik veel lol aan vandaar dat ik graag verder wil maar ik begrijp gewoon niet alles. Ik snap dat het menu een apart bestand is in code taal en dat je op iedere volgende site een verwijzing zet naar deze code. maar dan stopt het wel ongeveer. Ik zou het fijn vinden als jullie me verder willen helpen.

ron

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peter vazed · 16 jan 2010

Inderdaad: abracadabra,
maar op een gegeven moment kom je er wel uit.

Doe dit:

Code:

<html>
 <head>
  <title>TITEL VAN DE PAGINA</tile>
 </head>
 <body>
 <div id=titelbalk>
  TITELBALK
 </div>
 <div id=menu>
  <?php 
   include('menu.txt');
  ?>
 <div>
 <div id=inhoudwebsite>
  INHOUD VAN DE WEBSITE/PAGINA
  <div> 
 <body>
</html>

Sla op als testindex.php

Maak nu:
alleen deze tekst:
Menu voor mijn Site

Sla op als:
menu.txt

Upload naar je host:
testindex.php
en menu.txt

en open testindex.php in je browser,
dus
je_sitenaam.nl/testindex.php

Kijk of het werkt.

Overigens:
file:///C|/Users/Ron/Desktop/Nieuwe%20website/Menu

verwijzing naar C schijf mag niet
Hoofdletters NOOIT in filenamen zetten,
en GEEN spaties in filenamen gebruiken.

Ronnie1967 · 16 jan 2010

Hoi,

bedankt voor je reactie, ik ga dit proberen maar begrijp nog steeds niet hoe ik dit menu op elke pagina krijg. De fouten die je aangeeft begrijp ik ook niet zo goed. Ik werk andersom denk ik. ik werk met frontpage en gebruik dan het tabblad ontwerpen. Ik schrijf dus niet in de code taal. ik ga er dan maar van uit dat waat frontpage doet automatisch goed komt.

dom he
ik hoor het wel weer

peter vazed · 16 jan 2010

Doe je zelf:

Hoofdletters NOOIT in filenamen zetten,
en GEEN spaties in filenamen gebruiken.

verwijzing naar C schijf mag niet, zou je in FP moeten kunnen aangeven.

Menu op iedere pagina, door in iedere pagina:
<?php
include('menu.txt');
?>
te plaatsen op de plek waar het menu moet komen.

Voer de test -die 2 files- maar uit, om te kijken of je wel php ondersteuning hebt.

csshunter · 16 jan 2010

Hoi Ronnie,

@peter vazed:

verwijzing naar C schijf mag niet, zou je in FP moeten kunnen aangeven.

Het zou kunnen, dat de verwijzing naar de C-schijf door FP automatisch wordt omgezet naar de root op de server: op het moment dat je een bestand upload. Dan mag de C-schijf verwijzing er wel in blijven staan (voor lokaal testwerk).
Opmerking: als je een php-pagina lokaal wilt zien (zonder een eigen lokale server te hebben geïnstalleerd), dan lukt het niet. D.w.z.: eerst uploaden, en dan het resultaat bekijken in een browser.

Voor het vervolg (nog wat toelichting op peter's suggesties) ga ik er even van uit, dat het uitklapmenu-script werkt als je het gewoon in de html-pagina zelf hebt staan.
Als de php-test van peter goed is afgelopen, dan is het eenvoudig plak- en knipwerk in de code.

Stap 1
Heb je het menu:

HTML:

<td msopnltype="NavBody" rowspan="2" colspan="2">
<!-- MSCellType="NavBody" -->
...
t/m
...
<!-- Sothink Widgets End, Do not edit it --></p>
<p>&nbsp;</td>

opgeslagen als: menu.txt, en geüpload naar dezelfde map als waarin de index-pagina staat?

Stap 2
Nu gaan we de index.htm behandelen.
Het hele stuk code van het menu (zoals hierboven) wis je.
Precies op de plaats van het gewiste deel zet je de regels van peter:

HTML:

<?php
include('menu.txt');
?>

Dan kan de index opgeslagen worden als index.php.

Stap 3
De index.php ook uploaden. Nu kan je 'm (als het goed is) met menu en al zien in de browser.

Succes!
CSShunter

PS

Ik schrijf dus niet in de code taal; ik ga er dan maar van uit dat wat frontpage doet automatisch goed komt.
dom he

JA! - tenminste als je wist:

Frontpage is oud en slecht.
Microsoft (de maker) brengt er al enkele jaren ook geen nieuwe versies meer van uit. Ook updates blijven achterwege: FP wordt niet meer ondersteund.
Oud: niet goed afgestemd op moderne browsers.
Slecht: Frontpage maakt slechte codes, met name codes die alleen door Internet Explorer begrepen worden, en niet door andere browsers. Daarmee houdt FP zich niet aan de internationale standaarden voor goed html-gebruik.

Ik zou overstappen op KompoZer, die is gratis en maakt geldige code. :thumb:

Ronnie1967 · 16 jan 2010

hoi,

sorry voor mijn late reactie. het wordt wat duidelijker, ik heb compozer gedownload en ga morgen opnieuw beginnen. ik zal me dan weer melden

fijne avond,

ron

Ronnie1967 · 17 jan 2010

Hallo allemaal,

De test lukt niet dus v ermoedelijk ondersteunt kpn geen php. alles voor niets dus. Ik begrijp de achtergrond van het gebeuren dus dat is alweer winst. ik ga lekker wat ervaring opdoen en zal dan een provider zoeken met php. ik ga ruimte op mijn site laten zodat ik alsnog het menu kan invoegen. vooralsnog ga ik werken met een terug button.

bedankt voor de geduldige uitleg

ron

csshunter · 17 jan 2010

Aha!
Da's jammer, maar niet getreurd. Met "shtml" kan het ook, daarvoor is geen php op de server nodig. Gaat als volgt:
Je neemt je pagina, en op de plaats waar het menu moet komen, zet je nu niet het regeltje:

Code:

[FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="2"]<?php include("menu.txt"); ?>[/SIZE][/FONT]

maar het regeltje:

Code:

[FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="2"]<!--#include file="menu.txt" -->[/SIZE][/FONT]

Pagina opslaan met uitgang .shtml (in plaats van .php)
Pagina uploaden. Klaar!

Het menu.txt bestand blijft hetzelfde, dus de pagina kan meteen bekeken worden.

Voorbeeldje van deze manier staat hier.

Succes,
CSShunter

PS: dit geldt als de menu.txt in dezelfde directory zit als de pagina. Anders moet de verwijzing worden:

Code:

[FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="2"]<!--#include virtual="../../andere-dir/nog-andere-dir/dat-was-ver-weg.txt" -->[/SIZE][/FONT]

Ronnie1967 · 17 jan 2010

hoi,

ik ga het proberen en meld me weer

gr,

ron

Goeroeboeroe · 18 jan 2010

Ook die Server Side Includes zou ik even uitproberen, want ook niet elke hoster laat je die gebruiken.

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